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How to Build Crystal Power Cells – Long Duration Power

How to Build Crystal Power Cells – Long Duration Power

The complete build process for crystal power cells. 

Needed Items:

Solid magnesium rod.  Aluminum can also be used but will give a lower voltage.
Copper pipe cap.

Equal Parts of the following:
Potassium chloride - commonly known as salt substitute.
Hydrated potassium aluminium sulfate - commonly known as alum.
Sodium tetraborate - commonly known as 20 mule team Borax.
Magnesium sulfate - commonly known as epsom salt.

Reliance 9001829005 32-Inch Magnesium Water Heater Anode Rod

Price: $27.49

Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003110YN8/

Great prices on magnesium here:  http://www.mcssl.com/store/gallium-source/magnesium-metal

Galvanic Chart: http://www.nordhavn.com/resources/tech/images/Galvanic_Series.pdf

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120 Comments

  1. Can copper or aluminum also be used for an anode?

    • Disregard my anode question – I read your galvanic chart and will now do some looking. I see why you do not use aluminum and copper if indeed corrosion potential is a factor with the salts.

  2. Have you tried a wider difference in your Noble and Less Noble Cathode and Anode spread? As using stainless, nickel or titanium for the cathode? I don’t know where you’d get the titanium but the steel and nickel might be easy to find?

  3. Have you tried to do this on a larger scale to power an appliance for a house for instance?

    Great video!!

  4. What size are the copper caps? Also did you just drill a whole into the Magnesium and screw the bolt in or did you glue it in? What length is the bolt and whats the significance of the nut in the middle? Thank you for the informative video!

    • I first drilled and then screwed the bolt into the rod. The nut lets you screw up and secure a wire for a long term connection.

  5. It would be much easy to have the list of ingredients in a text format as here in Brazil it is hard to find the equivalents… and it is hard to me to figure out just watching the video in English.

    Thanks.

    And, as usual, superb work !!

  6. Cell was made with equal parts of Borax – Epsom Salt — Alum – Salt Substitute.

  7. Thomas,

    Equal parts of the following:

    Alum
    Borax
    Epsom Salt
    No Salt (brand of Potassium Chloride)

    Just search amazon.com for clarification/description of these ingredients.

    Brian, Good point about the anode/cathode spread. If you see lasersaber’s youtube videos about the air batteries- very simple; magnesium tape, solid carbon rod and paper towel as an separator. Simple and brilliant!

  8. It would be much better to know the composition written at the package of each component. For instance, what is “Alum” and “Salt Substitute” ? For many people “Salt Substitute” is glutamate monosodic…

    • Done.

    • Alum is commonly used in pickle making….can also be found it crystal deodorant rock, or styptic pencils!

  9. Laser hacker. You are the best inventor as far as experimenting with electricity is concerned, however it will be excellent if you can couple your videos with explicit texts that explain the ingredients and the process in a layman language. Like in this video, apart from the white mixture, the container is made up with what?

    • I am diffidently not the best. I just love making stuff and I keep learning more all the time. Time permitting, I will try to do a better job with the text documentation in the future.

  10. MANY THANKS for this great material and all your work.info. Perhaps this tech could be applied in a larger scale with multiple cells. I hope to be part of that research. Motor on LS

  11. LaserSaber, what is the diameter of your Magnesium Rod used in this video, and what is the length and diameter of the copper cap?

  12. It looks like you are using a 2″ copper cap. And a 1 inch magnesium core. Producing approximately 1.41 volts. Could a person make C or D size batteries by capping both ends? And make the proper connections just like on regular batteries? Or is there a reason for not doing so? Also what if I were to make one that is from say a four inch x twelve inch copper pipe? Any idea how much power would be generated? Or is it a one for two ratio on the size? Like your demonstration. Two inch cape and 1 inch rode. Thanks

    • Dean, It doesn’t much matter what the size of the copper is, since it is the galvanic principle that determines the voltage differential. Size does matter in the way of the capacity or runtime of the cell–ability to take a heavier “load”. Only when you put the cells in series, will your voltage go up.

  13. It would be cool to be able to build a power source for people to heat there houses in the winter so there not at the mercy of the power companies. I love this idea. Can’t wait to see more of your experiments!! Keep up the good work:.)

  14. Thank you very much Lasersaber, after going through 10 hours of various cell info from others, I find this the most useful and clear. I’ve been researching ion exchange in galvanic cells, p-n junctions to see what’s going on., from the battery research it seems the ions in the battery acid fail to support and provide electron swaps with the ions of the negative terminal, thus positive and negative ions build up and the battery goes flat. As the crystal cell design have crystals that are piezoelectric I suspect they provide the electron short fall that the battery suffers from. They get the spare energy from radio waves and stuff. By providing a small amount of power the battery can continue to use the resources of the magnesium pole to generate the higher voltage with out going flat.

  15. Where can I buy this?

  16. S Meter
    In some blog within there was a request about an ammeter that measures very small currents – - – I just found out that would be what HAM radio guys use – It is called an S-Meter (a microammeter).

    See:

    Brian

    • Sorry – The notes below about replies said it would accept some HTML. I cut-n-pasted from the list and edited but my link did not show for ‘S Meter’ at Wikipedia.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_meter

      • OK – WEB Browser and this discussion reply setup is not working today. It cancelled my first reply about micro-ammeters to answer a request somewhere within LaserHacker’s blogs.

        I found out today that an S Meter used by HAM radio guys is actually a microammeter and can measure very small currents. This was requested within this group of blogs somewhere. See the link in my moments before posting trying to include a link which had been stripped from the now deleted first posting.

  17. That wood disc glued at the bottom of the Mg rod is mandatory. Correct ?
    It is not just to prevent floating of the Mg piece, as said in the video.
    Without that electric insulation the cell will be at permanent short circuit…

    Could this be related ?

    http://www.sustainablemedia.co/crystalcell/

  18. Laser Hacker,

    Can you explain how you put the rod in the magnesium. Is this a regular bolt? Was it screwed into a hole you made in the magnesium? etc.

    Also, could this type of invention light a 75 watt lightbulb? I am thinking of how I can make this functional in my life.

    Thanks, for all your doing to share such coveted knowledge to us regular joes!

    Fly

  19. Dude, this is great. Ive been looking for this kind of info for a long time. Now that I am aware of the ingredients and if I can get them in Sweden- I will share my findings.

    /Fellow developer Intrepidus

  20. I cannot get the powder mixture to melt. I am using heat gun and element on stove. I was wondering if I can add a few drops of water to powder and make a paste? I will attempt this later.
    The Salt substitute does have other ingredients… Maybe listing them in the ingredients list would be helpful for people in the countries.

  21. Is it important that you use copper for the outside, would another conductive material work as well. Copper being expensive and all. I could machine many aluminum casings for much less than a couple copper caps. Just wanted to see if anyone has tried before I do.

  22. I really need help! I can find all materials expect alum. I dont think it is called alum in my country, I am not sure if it is sell in my country. So can I use something else instead of alum. PLZZZZ HELP ???????

    • Google first then beg.

      From Google:
      What is Alum?

      What is alum?

      Been reading labels again, have you?

      Alum is a salt that in chemistry is a combination of an alkali metal, such as sodium, potassium, or ammonium and a trivalent metal, such as aluminum, iron, or chromium. The most common form, potassium aluminum sulfate, or potash alum, is one form that has been used in food processing. Another, sodium aluminum sulfate, is an ingredient in commercially produced baking powder. (Have you never noticed the faint metallic taste in baking powder? It comes from the alum.)

      The potassium-based alum has been used to produce crisp cucumber and watermelon-rind pickles as well as maraschino cherries, where the aluminum ions strengthen the fruits’ cell-wall pectins.

      Alum is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as a food additive, but in large quantities — well, an ounce or more — it is toxic to humans. As a result, efforts have been made and are being made to wean us of our alum dependency. The U.S. Department of Agriculture says that if good quality produce and modern canning methods are employed, there is no need to use alum to bolster the crispness of our pickles and cherries. In any event, the department says, even if alum is used to soak the pickles, it should not be used in the final pickling liquid.

      OR

      What is a Styptic Pencil?

      Aluminum Sulfate (56 percent)

      Aluminum sulfate is one of the primary ingredients in the styptic pencil, which you will rub directly on your cut in order to stop it from bleeding. Aluminum sulfate is colorless and odorless in appearance, but it is a powerful agent that is also a key ingredient of sulfuric acid. Because it is employed at a 56 percent potency in the styptic pencil, the user does not have to worry about burning the skin. Aluminum sulfate is a vasoconstrictor that will restrict the flow of blood in the area where it is applied.

      Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/67072-styptic-pencil-ingredients/#ixzz2mf7RJRyK

  23. You really should use Google, Yahoo or another search engine. It will help. Here is what I found for you -

    What is Alum? http://www.ochef.com/1080.htm

    Alum is a salt that in chemistry is a combination of an alkali metal, such as sodium, potassium, or ammonium and a trivalent metal, such as aluminum, iron, or chromium. The most common form, potassium aluminum sulfate, or potash alum, is one form that has been used in food processing. Another, sodium aluminum sulfate, is an ingredient in commercially produced baking powder. (Have you never noticed the faint metallic taste in baking powder? It comes from the alum.)

    The potassium-based alum has been used to produce crisp cucumber and watermelon-rind pickles as well as maraschino cherries, where the aluminum ions strengthen the fruits’ cell-wall pectins.

    Alum is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as a food additive, but in large quantities — well, an ounce or more — it is toxic to humans. As a result, efforts have been made and are being made to wean us of our alum dependency. The U.S. Department of Agriculture says that if good quality produce and modern canning methods are employed, there is no need to use alum to bolster the crispness of our pickles and cherries. In any event, the department says, even if alum is used to soak the pickles, it should not be used in the final pickling liquid.

    What is Styptic Pencil? (ALUM)
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/67072-styptic-pencil-ingredients/

    Aluminum Sulfate (56 percent)

    Aluminum sulfate is one of the primary ingredients in the styptic pencil, which you will rub directly on your cut in order to stop it from bleeding. Aluminum sulfate is colorless and odorless in appearance, but it is a powerful agent that is also a key ingredient of sulfuric acid. Because it is employed at a 56 percent potency in the styptic pencil, the user does not have to worry about burning the skin. Aluminum sulfate is a vasoconstrictor that will restrict the flow of blood in the area where it is applied.

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/67072-styptic-pencil-ingredients/#ixzz2mf7RJRyK

  24. Thanks for quick response.And I found that alum is stipsa in my country, thx again.

  25. Can someone explain Galvanic Chart. I see volts DC but I dont get + and – and anodic and cathodic ?????

  26. Hey again guys, I still have not been able to get my 4 part mix to liquify.

    I notice that if I put Alum or Epsom salt over heat they melt. So I tried to add a little more of each to mix. But the mix still stays in powder form. I tried to add some water at the end for fun, the mixture clumps up but does not liquify and bubble like in the video.

    When I ground the alum in the grinder, it got pretty warm. I wonder if this changed it in some way. I will keep trying….

  27. how long your cell will last for powering 1 watt led

  28. So do we want the outer material to be lower on the galvanic scale then? Or should I machine the inner and outer out of magnesium. Or do the outer with graphite.

  29. I have watched a number of DIY crystal battery videos. This was excellent. My questions are:
    1. Is the Epsom salt required? One version does not use it.

    2. Does the Cu and Mg surface area matter? One DIY video shows only Cu and Mg strips that cost much less than the Cu pipe and Mg rod. It would also allow for many smaller batteries. The other video had nearly the same voltage. Perhaps there was a different current.

  30. hi, lasersaber., I’ve built a couple of the crystal cells experimentally trying didfferent things and find the tube design the best, i’ve just had delivered enough magnesium to make 30 cells, so will see how that goes., I have had a few people wanting to buy some of the cells I’ve made because they are so fasinated by them., I want to sell them with instructions on their constituents so they can build them.. this being said I have no Idea who the true inventor is, so I call myself the builder and encourage others to build them and sell them.. Do you think is OK as I have no idea about copy rights.

  31. Salts are ionic, So what if you just metled some sodium cloride with aluminum or magnesium sulfate and poured it over a ion conductor using copper and zinx electrodes or aluminum and some other metal? RbAg4I5 is and example of an ion conductor.

  32. Sorry if the spelling is bad. I just want to ammend an idea to potash contains some postaium hydroxide and magnesium sulfate mixed and tapped down between copper and magnesium add a little SiO2 or Zirconium oxide or some RbAg4I5 for a solid state cell. I think the crystal cell works using sulfates for some reason aluminum sulfate may be similar to magnesium sulfate in a cell. I also think pot ash from burnt wood could be your source of potassium but never tested these solid state ionic cells.

  33. Try mixing up you crystal battery ingreadients in a concentrated solution of distilled water and using that to fill up a new dry car battery that has never had acid in it. It might be a short cut and all you have to do is let it dry out and you may get .2 volts or more per cell and maybe resonable amperage due to the size of plates. Wet you might go to 2-3 volts but expect the potassium chloride to drain the charge so I would use potssium sulfate instead maybe. So far I have only done some partial experimenting with lead and aluminum.

  34. I see you use Salts for the electrolyte, have you torn down the cell after a period of use to see how the magnesium is affected? I tried a magnesium copper cell, using ribbon magnesium, added sodium chloride and the magnesium was consumed from use. (salt seemed to just speed up the magnesium dissociation, so more current in less time versus non-salting the interface.)

    Was there a reason you settled on that mixture for the electrolyte? I like the use of potassium considering how the old nickel iron batteries worked without consuming their electrodes. (versus the acid based batteries which all did consume one or the other of the electrodes.)

    Good work man, keep it up!

  35. Can you tell me how long your copper tube design is now. It looks to be around 2 inches long? I like you website and your ideas. Just getting into this stuff and working on ideas myself.

  36. It seems the key to these cells is the rate of re-charge they give when drained off a bit, do they recharge? If so what is their rate of recovery.. This is quite important i think. Because my cells seem to take a short and recover does not mean they recharge from the short, I believe they crystals have a memory of charge that is gained (imprinted) when they are first made.

  37. The Markus reid cell from Rex research uses sodium metasilicate. The cells work better with a dry construction it seems as the above cell seem to put out a good constant voltage. But crystal cell seem to work better when pulsed so the joul ringer circuit might be best for charging capacitors?

  38. I built a couple using your recipe, and can only get 6 milliamps. What an I doing wrong? The voltage is about 1.3 or 1.4 volts. Adding them in series makes double the voltage as expected; but parallel does not increase past the 6 milliamps.

  39. Very well done great presentations again thanks

  40. Where are you buying motors that can run on milliamps? After building a bunch and experimenting with different (cheaper) materials and shapes during the double-digit weather, my cells deliver 2-12 times the amperage when placed on a radiator. Heat shows no effect on voltages. Still, it seems b=my choices are voltage or amperage, but never enough.

  41. Followed your instructions and my cells work great. Lots of fun to experiment with. Thanks. Strange how they seem to be cooler then room temp?

  42. Is your cell rechargeable?

  43. Does it have to be specifically Potassium Chloride? What if we use regular table salt? Would that work as well?

  44. is there any other way to make this without Hydrated potassium aluminium sulfate and Sodium tetraborate some sort of alternative because i live in ireland and that stuff is illegal here im pretty sure

  45. Would a Magnesium Fire Starter block work? Maybe cutting them into smaller square bars.. Would the shape matter? Are these fire starters low in magnesium content?

    NICE WORK!

  46. The first one is alum, which is used in making pickles. And also in the leather making process. Maybe its called something different there?
    The second one is a laundry detergent sold in the USA with the trade name “20 mule team borax.” Alum is a lot cheaper from Amazon than from grocery stores. My irish co-workers have retired, so i cant ask them.

  47. Please post an updated on volts and amps when you get a chance. Thanks!

  48. I need some help and I’m hoping someone can get back to me quickly. My daughter wanted to build this for her science project. We’ve completed the build and getting just under 1.4v per battery. We are trying to power a 1.5v motor. When we connect the battery to the motor, the volts drop to zero and the motor doesn’t go. A AAA battery at 1.39v will run the motor. Any ideas why the voltage drops? I’ve run 2 batteries in series same thing. Solo battery does same thing.

  49. some of my cells had voltage but little amps, when i put them under load i noticed the volts drop away because there were too little amps in the cell. The amps are to some degree charged at the point of making the crystal cell, i had a bubbling and such where the paste was reacting to the copper and magnesium. Weaker cells were because the magnesium was poor or the gap made up of paste was to thin or to wide.. I have managed to pulse the good cells and recharge them.

  50. Thanks for the response Pat. I’m using a 1.25″ copper pipe cap and the magnesium anode rod listed above. Maybe there is too much gap? I’m getting an amp reading of 2.0 the after I hook up the motor it drops to .03 and no joy.

  51. I built several with 1.5 and 2 inch copper pipe caps. Seems to make no difference. The only thing I’ve noticed is the longer the tube, the higher the amperage (although very slight). I have no trouble getting additive voltage; amperage is a no-go so far. The only thing I’ve been able t o power is a 1.9 volt, 20 milliamp green LED. And even then, it sometimes quits.

  52. yes ! Please, it would be much easier if one could use those fire starters as Mg source… Here whee i live it is the only kind of Mg metallic available.

  53. these cells do recharge on their own but I add distilled water to them. just a few drops will do they need the water to pass ions! only distilled water. tap water will destroy them!!! could use rain water. I use a bedini earth light oscillator to run an led all night for night light. my wife and I love them have 4 that have been running for 4 months now. I do switch them off in the day and they recharge.

  54. I don’t recommend the fire starters unless you know it is pure. I tried some from china and they destroyed themselves in a week!

  55. all of my cells run close to 1.35v and 200ma when wet but dry they wont go over 5ma. just add few drops of distilled water only and the cell should run a low amp draw motor. whats cool is let them dry out put them up for few weeks and when you need them add distilled water and there back. who knows what a dry ones shelf life is. could be over 4 years?

  56. @ Mitch.. Thanks for sharing! It’s great to hear detailed feedback. Did you use the cooking method or the stamping/compressing method?

    I’m having success with a 1″ copper pipe with an old water heater anode rod.. Stamping method.. Over 1v.. It will light a garden light and power a solar toy! I’m stoked! It will not power a small 2 volt motor.

    I can’t add water to it because i sealed the ends with 5 minute epoxy.

  57. I really want to make a good night light like you mentioned.. Can you recommend any good basic proven instructions? or Tips? or Links? Thanks :) [haungo(at)gmail]

  58. What is the setup that you have constructed to store the electricity in the video showing the new method to build the crystal cells. My goal is to utilize the cells to power a light in shed. Similar thought to the chicken coop. The cells are connected to the ultra capacitor boost pack. (Described in your boost pack section.) What is after the boost pack?

    Is that some type of transformer to step up or step down the power?
    More detail would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks

  59. Thank you, your site is very complete. I just found the video with the details for the super joule that is being utilize.

  60. my best cells use 1″3/4 inch copper end caps heat treated red hot then let to cool and dipped in borax after each heating for 3 times. you should sand and solder a spot at this time if connecting a wire to it. I also use mag anodes from hot water heaters cut then drilled and taped for screw also hot glue other end of mag to set in bottom of cap so wont short out. I also clean the mag washing it in dish soap to remove any oils. slowly heat your salts at low temp in the end cap best not boil it! and it takes time adding small amounts as it melts. I had to stir constantly until almost 3/4 full. I keep the mag close to the heat but not on it to get its temp up. slowly insert the mag and twist back and forth until its in and centered. turn off heat and with pliers move cell over to a plate with water in it an set cell in water to cool. at this point mag should be in center of cap and it should not be touched for 45 min.

  61. as for the light I use small single white led pulled from a damaged led flood bulb but old solar yard light led will work. the circuit was given to use by John Bedini it is similar to a solar yard light circuit but much better! you have to wind a coil of 2 wires same size twisted together with 45 turns I use 30 gage enamel coated wire. could reclaim from transformer that plugs into wall if wire can be removed without damage. I use 2″ pvc pipe for housing. I take 2- 4 inch sections and cut one long ways then slowly heat it up on stove get some gloves it gets hot keep it moveing don’t let sit over heat or it will burn! it will get flimsy I then flatten it between tile or metal, wood what ever I have on hand point is to get it flat when it cools it will stay that way use a hole saw or jigsaw to make top and bottom round ends to fit inside second pipe the lamp. I use hot glue to secure the circuit and coil to the top round with led in a hole so it sticks out the middle the second round is to hold cell in bottom. I drill two holes in side of lamp one for a switch another for watering hole. I paint the lamp black and put aluminum tape on top for reflector. the circuit can be found if you google john bedini earth lights. there is a lot of post but a lot of good info as well. hope this helps good luck. thanks lasersaber for the cell its a great one!!!!

  62. As I was trying to heat up the materials for the crystal battery, I found that I had no way of telling how long they are to be cooking.

    I am using a powder-coat paint oven for this project and if anyone be so kind enough to give me a hind on how long it must be before the materials melt, I will be joyed to hear such a thing.

  63. I did try to create a crystal battery using a copper cap and the contents spilled out as you said. I didn’t touch the materials because turning that solid-powder material into a liquid state is very hot. ~200 degrees hot.

    By using this data, I’ll let everyone know that at 200 degrees Fahrenheit, the bottom of the materials will melt and bubble at ~30 minutes. I used a powder-coat oven to do this job.

  64. I had to keep moving it around with a stick constantly while adding small amounts at a time. the water that’s locked up in the salts will start to come out turning it all to a liquid state then I add some more of the mix to desired amount for mag anode to be placed without over flow. little tricky!

  65. Completed 2 cells with 1/2 inch copper caps and Mg ribbon from Gallium Metal store.
    Output was 1.3v and .01mA after 1 week
    Using only the mixture 1 week old cold pressed into cap no heat applied (no melting) on another test battery the voltage was 1.5v and 10-15mA. The mixture was damp from humidity in the air.

    Reduction in size of the battery appears at this time to have little if any affect on the voltage or amperage as stated by others. Moisture content of mixture does have same effect as listed by others.

    Additional note: damp cell shows signs of corrosion on cap within 12hrs of making, where mixture is not covering the copper or Mg.

    Conclusion this battery can be made smaller and still have same properties. Might be able to use the Mg ribbon, dipped into the molten mixture with copper plating applied to outside of crystalized mixture.

    More questions to be answered? John Hutchinson used high voltage to polarize the molten mixture. Does that have a significant change on voltage or current?

    Thank everyone for the post and keep testing.

  66. I noticed on your recent video where you revisited these that the pipes had split on the seam, slowly or all at once isn’t clear but you proposed a question that has bugged me for days. Is the current or voltage pressure related or is it simply due to the surface area, I suspect it is just the surface area. I devised this test to test the theory. I took 3″ fire starters and cut them in half 1.5″ each, then flattened out 1/2″ copper pipes cut to 1.5 inches as well. then I made a crystal sandwich and put it all in a clamp. The whole thing was very messy as you may have guessed however the results were worth finding. The cells can be shorted just by having the crystals touch between the plates. Also the pressure did not increase voltage. If anything I found that the more Crystal I squashed out of between the plates the less voltage I had. I think there may be a way to force the crystal to stay in between the plates as it is crushed. It also would be awesome to do the same test in a pressure vessel and vacuum chamber as well to see if and how it affects the voltage & amperage. I would love someone to duplicate my experiment even if it’s in a different way and share the results.

  67. Great job, Thnx. Just a stupod ?. Which side would be clasified as positife or negative – copper or other?

  68. LaserSaber, is there a use case for the crystal cells to run a small generator that could be hooked up to a 12V Battery Bank and trickel charge the bank for reserve power like a solar backup battery bank?

  69. Have you made one of these using magnesium and titaniam?

  70. I reproduced your power cells only I used 1″ caps. I have a series of 5 running 3 LED’s, it is putting out a total of just under 7 volts, but not enough amperage to run a 1.5v dc motor, how do i increase the amperage? larger caps?

  71. Great work , everyone.
    Love your projects.
    Now; I need advice.
    I would love to implement your knowledge at the place I live.
    I live in a country named El Slavator, in Central America.
    now industrialization here goes as far as beans and bananas, so getting my hands on a piece of magnesium will be difficult.
    GOD ! i was not able to find copper sheets at the biggest hardware store in the country.
    So let me know where I can get some solid magnesium from.
    Thank you

  72. Great post , but we are trying to build power cells.
    You should direct your comments to a medical site.

  73. Hi all, Great project which I’m in process of ordering parts to replicate. While reading up on crystal batteries i seen somewhere that sunlight could have an affect on the output off crystals, has anyone given this ago ? Also has anyone tried polarising the mixture using a high voltage ?

  74. How does this work, and is there any way to prevent corrosion on the copper? I built one and after one week Its already corrosion build up on the edges, great video though.

  75. Have you tried to series two to three sets of these batteries to boost the volts and then parallel the sets to boot the amps. Then run it through a joule ringer and see what kind of result you get?

  76. Net Reaction and half reaction? my daughter needs this info for a chemistry project … just found that out. We built 30 of these with 1 inch copper pipe – 5/8 mag 99% mag stick and the mix of
    Alum
    Borax
    Epsom Salt
    No Salt (brand of Potassium Chloride)
    The batteries are doing great – capped with silicon and sealed with hot glue. The SS screw is the neg end and the positive end is a the coiled end of a 14g copper wire wrapped and taped around the copper pipe. Each unit seems to be holding a 1.3-1.5 volt charge, heated they run up to about 1.58.
    Super cool experiment – I tested a smaller one hydrated with lime juice, and it shot up to 1.7 volts, but the copper ox rate was very fast.
    Anyway – we have been unable to find any info on the net or half reaction, and her teacher has never seen this kind of battery before and was unable to understand what the reactions are.

    Great project – had a blast doing it and looking forward to a few variations – I am thinking a mason jar with a few mag sticks a few cups of chem mix and a copper plate resting on top, then capped with cheese cloth … add distilled water and turn upside down to let it drain/dry… let you know how it turns out.

  77. Im a bit stumped….I built enough cells that I am producing just under 20v, and I cannot get a simple 1.5v dc motor to turn. Is the amperage so low that it cannot even turn this small motor?

  78. i am curius about the battery in a battery made using the caps like you were playing with and some made with the battery shaped configurations. what is the avradge power output and will the power output increes with the crystal formation inside such as with the cap. i also had a idea though it would take a bit of work to get right but rather then leeving the top open what if you put a pvc cap or flat tube end over it with a single hole drilled in it to alow the other pole to be acsessable as well as to keep the magnezium rod in place.

  79. I agree with the other guy ,but instead of PVC it should be copper cap with hole in the center, but have rubber washer for spacing in between the magnesium negative and the positive copper. Then
    Use high strength expoxy or resin to keep the copper caps from separating . What do you think?

  80. you would have to link the two sections of copper though that was a nother good idea maby fill it with the base mixture though not sure how to make it crystalize.

  81. I’d love to see something built to power larger-scale objects. We wouldn’t need to buy consumer-grade batteries anymore and deal with recharging again! This would be the end of electronic waste and make for a huge step in the green future.

  82. Please is there someone out there that is using the crystal batteries to light their RV or home. Out of the 100 or so videos I have watched NOT one video has showed them doing anything other then lighting a few l.e.d or a fan.

    I am 65 disabled from esophageal cancer and two brain aneurysms and have chose to live off grid. Limited on income I turned to YouTube for answers to the high cost of living off grid. So far NOT one inventor has shown anything more the more videos that lead to more videos and lots of commits but NOT one video showing a happy inventor using their inventions to live on.

    PLEASE! Is there someone that would be kind enough to email me (lairdcarlson@gamil.com)with how they are using one of these inventors to better their lives.

    I want to power my generator on 100% HHO fuel. Is there a video or a person that is doing this. I s a lot of videos that say it can be done but not one that shows the end plan HOW TO.

    In the next 6 months I want to not only be off the grid but the money grid. If this is possible just think of all we could do to help others that need or want to live a more pour lifestyle. Laird

  83. Not one answer to my post. Please someone can you answer me this one question? Is there anyone out there that has a working battery system using crystals to power even a small RV? Video after video with not one person that is using LED lights/crystal to power their home for more then a few days. As bright as these people are I haven’t found one that is living off grid and using their invention to better their lives. I hope I can get just one of you wonderful inventors to prove me wrong. Laird

  84. I doubt anyone’s being rude or ignoring you. Since I have a history of being the kid who verbally noted that the “emperor has no clothes on”..I’ll be a brazen hussy and say it wont work. This battery gets voltage but no current. My windowsill is filled with crystal battery failures. Likewise- sticking copper and metal plates in the dirt also gets voltage but no current to speak of. I suppose it COULD work, but would take thousands of dollars of supplies to build one that gives the same power an AA battery would.
    If I’m not kicked off this board now, I’ll let you know if I am successful at another endeavor which I think will work better. Just waiting for supplies and a day of.

  85. Life off Grid
    Thank you all for your response. Esophageal cancer and five operations hasn’t stopped me. Two brains aneurysms hasn’t defeated me nor has Parkinson disease which is the worst of them all keep me from living out my dream.

    Someone out there must have the answer to all this. I moved to the mountains to live out my life and to do it as close to mother earth as possible. Living off grid is not simple nor easy. I have not enjoyed my life more now then when I am now. Living with all the worldly essentials didn’t make my life better. To tell you the truth I feel better know then a year ago with all my doctors and their medicine.

    I have two goals to accomplish before winter comes this year. 1) to use a HHO fuel cell to run my generator ( any generator) so I can charge my main batteries. That would give me free power to live on throughout the winter.

    2) To light my home using crystal batteries would mean I have lights to power my home without having to spend what little I have to live on monthly. Do you realize how many people we could help? Hydrogen fuel to drive our vehicles and power to generate electricity. What would this mean for third world countries? LED lights to help a little child see in the night.

    Will anyone help me? It sounds so simple! I am up for the challenge.

    Laird

  86. i have been wanting to build my self a crystal cell battery as well and experiment with it to see how useful it is though as of yet i haven’t been able to afford any of the materials to build it with. i have been wondering how small some one could make a crystal battery if it can be shrunk down to the size of a pencil or smaller if it can be don i could use a joul ringer to pull more power from it to charge a cap or if it can sustain the output charge a cell phone or a usb charged device.

  87. Joel, Just to clarify for me. Are you saying that if I use a smaller copper cap, say .5″ and a smaller magnesium rod, will I still get the same voltage as one with a 2″ cap with the mag rod?

  88. Please check this link and let me know if this could be done too…?

    http://agnitantra.com/battery/

  89. All the tech info regarding these type of cells can be found by watching all of John Bendinis YouTube videos. He is one of the free energy community leaders.

  90. I have no problem getting a cd drive motor from an old cd radio. My vids are BackRoomLabs on YouTube .

  91. I have a few vids on YouTube showing some cells of lasersabers design lighting my bedroom. My channel is BackRoomLabs

  92. I have a few vids posted showing lasersabers design lighting up my bedroom. Search BackRoomLabs. On YouTube

  93. I made two of these. Smaller but still getting out voltage. 1.4 voltage on one and 1 V on the other. I connected them in series to amp up the voltage. Connected to the 1.5 V to 3 V DC motor and motor isn’t running. I tested the motor against a AA battery and the motor was fine. I tried just one cell like video and motor still inst running. Any suggestions??!!!

  94. Having built lots of earth batteries years ago, (carbon zinc) and then salt batteries, (carbon magnesium), I’ve learned a few things. Usable voltage is easy to obtain. Usable current is a different matter. It has to do with internal cell resistance. Salt mixtures typically don’t afford high enough conductance to allow current to flow. Adding water is the easiest way to remedy this. This leads to corrosion issues with the cathode material though. I always use carbon rods for anodes. No corrosion issues and affords the best + voltage difference. You can obtain copper clad carbon rods from welding supply shops. I just peel off the cladding, or not! I’ve also developed simple mini inverters that produce usable voltages with minimal voltage powering them, (down to 1/2 volt! They are of the traditional multivibrator design and highly reliant on the right transformer. Usually ones salvaged from wall worts and have a center tap on the secondary. So far, they produce enough to power transistor radios quite well. I use full wave germanium diodes on the output along with a small filter cap to make them, more actually, voltage “converters”.

  95. You’ve hit the nail on the head Roberta…they produce volts but little amps so I call foul on this ‘crystal battery’ …following the instructions (using the dry ram method) I produced a battery that drove a LED via a JT for 2 weeks but then the amps dropped off to a point where it stopped working…internal resistance went up too…seeing many comments on the net about similar results…I’m guessing the live web cam fails to show an alternate power source

  96. I recently posted a comment detailing my experiences with earth and salt batteries. I noticed it wasn’t approved and went away. Was it because I did not follow the process in time or something else?

  97. Well, I have built one of these last night. My version uses nothing but epsom salt, much like Mr Bedini, but mostly because other ingredients I still need to order online (borax etc.). I was able to get 1.46 Volts and only 6.2 mA and dropping. My solution did have water added to it as without the water I got no mA’s at all. I am also using a somewhat smaller piece of magnesium (half of yours). This morning I took the magnesium out and noticed that it has eroded quite a bit. So… I have to say I am a bit disappointed to confirm, at least as of now, that the electricity generated appears to be from normal corrosive chemical reaction between salt and magnesium – no magic here, no Piezo Effect from the crystal due to “ambient heat energy!”

  98. My background includes solid state physics and electrical engineering. I’ve been working on establishing a better theoretical understanding and description of WHY and HOW the crystal battery works. I’d like to chat with you about these two things if you might have the time. I have left my email address in the section requiring that. Or, you can phone me at 623 594 9195. RSVP, Howard

  99. Amagin one nade of carbon, like the tipe used in super capacitors. You would probably burn threw the magnesium core in like a weak but the output would be fanominal.

    I show people the things you do and thay say youre the fakest. Can you give me sume of thhe science that happens inside, thx.

  100. Hi Everyone,
    I would like to know from every one who has replicated the Crystal Cell. With a single cell the voltage across the anode and cathode is 1.3-1.5 volt. But what if we want to power an led from it does it light up? If any body on this page would let me know the reality I would be very thankful too him.

  101. In reference to heating a small room there is an alternative, which includes an aluminum soup can without the coating on the inside, an anodized bolt from the hardware store and 1 quart of motor oil. It creates a substantial amount of heat and can be scaled up as needed.

  102. These cells are hydrate cells they require distilled water to work. The water creates the intimate contact need to produce electron flow. If they are dry the voltage will sag a bit but you will have no current. Add a few drops to 10 ml of distilled water only depending on the size of your cell. No tap water to many unknowns in there. Look at my cells on YouTube search BackRoomLabs. I have quite a few vids using lasersabers mix. They will explain quite a lot.

  103. have you tried sandwiching it? i mean does the magnesium has to be a rod? also have you tried using the oven to equally distribute heat?

  104. I have come up with an easy way to utilize the 4 part compound. I’m using the 1 ft carbon welding (scarfing) rods, sans the copper cladding. Carbon allows for about .2 more positive volts and no corrosion verses copper. The anode material is corrugated galvanized sheet metal cut into 1 ft individual “troughs” A small amount of the mixture is poured onto the trough with the rod then positioned. More mixture is poured in to not quite cover the rod. Distilled water is used to moisten the mix but not saturate. Tamping the sides compresses the mix which sets up like cement when dry. The voltage developed is about 1.25 and initially a short circuit current of about .5 amp. Dry, the short circuit current drops to .125 amps but won’t hold it too long. Still an easy way to get useful results! As an aside, i have been able to get my aforementioned mini voltage converters to work down to .350 volts. Not bad for silicon bipolar transistors! Two each, plus the two feedback resistors…

  105. If a cell need water to operate this means that is happening mostly galvanic reactions, meaning corrosion. The result is self destruction of the cell in month rather then years…

  106. hi laser hacker , i really like what you are doing because here in france nobody know about super capacitor or way to save some electricity but without you i wouldn’t be able to light my entire house for free every days , it cost me to find the parts but in the end of the day once it is installed it doesn’t cost a cent and i’d like to thank you for that.

    now my rooms kitchen and living room are light powered solin1 and LED light , and the other parts that i dont use really often with this chrystal cell system and it works great ,

    i drop the electricity bills by practically 20% now because during the day the solar system also recharge all my battery powered devices like phone macbook air , PSP …

    so thanks again .

    now with what i have learned from you i think about using the wind to recharge my boost cap .

  107. does a magnesium fire starter work?

    becaus they are realy cheap

    and i have a great idea with thes cells

  108. I have found them to work well. Mg works has the best negative voltage potential of all the common anode materials. I have purchased a lot of them from Harbor Freight when on sale. I have found you can remove the flint rods from the side, thereby exposing more surface area. You can do this by applying localized heat. I use a small butane torch. Just be careful. Mg is flammable when heated sufficiently. Hard to do and I’ve never had a problem. I would have some sand at the ready just in case…

  109. I have been doing tests with this technology for several weeks now. What is demonstrated here is a galvanic effect. The proof of this is the need of adding water periodically. It is NOT the same effect of the “Crystal Cell” of Marcus Reid. Also Like the John Bedini cell the need of water says much… But this one is a hole new ball game: https://www.youtube.com/user/PlengoFreeEnergy

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